Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT
Kirklees Metropolitan Council — appeal dismissed
- Outcome
- Dismissed
- Decision date
- 11 January 2023
- Authority
- Kirklees Metropolitan Council
- Inspector
- Cullen F
- Procedure
- Written Representations
- Casework type
- Planning Appeal
- Type detail
- Planning Appeals - Full
- Development type
- Minor retail and services
- Appellant
- Greene King
- LPA reference
- 2021/94440
- ONS LPA code
- E08000034
- Jurisdiction
- Transferred
- Link status
- Lead
- Start date
- 2 August 2022
Summary AI
The Inspector dismissed the appeals due to the inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the drawings submitted, which raised concerns about the proposal's impact on the Grade II listed building and its setting.
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Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — by F Cullen BA(Hons) MSc DipTP MRTPI IHBC an Inspector appointed by the Secretary of State Decision date: 11 January 2023
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield HD3 3JT • The appeal is made under section 78 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 against a failure to give notice within the prescribed period of a decision on an application for planning permission. • The appeal is made by Greene King against Kirklees Metropolitan Council. • The application Ref: 2021/94440, is dated 25 November 2021. • The development proposed is described as ‘alterations to the external site areas to provide new customer seating areas, with new raised decking area with frameless glass balustrading, new LED festoon lighting and support posts, new fixed seating and new brick walled yard area.’
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield HD3 3JT • The appeal is made under section 20 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 against a failure to give notice within the prescribed period of a decision on an application for listed building consent. • The appeal is made by Greene King against Kirklees Metropolitan Council. • The application Ref: 2021/94441 is dated 25 November 2021. • The works proposed are described as ‘alterations to the external site areas to provide new customer seating areas, with new raised decking area with frameless glass balustrading, new LED festoon lighting and support posts, new fixed seating and new brick walled yard area.’
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. 1 The Black Bull Public House, List Entry Number: 1266828 https://www.gov.uk/planning-inspectorate Appeal Decisions APP/Z4718/W/22/3299261 & APP/Z4718/Y/22/3299265 6. Therefore and for the avoidance of doubt, in determining the appeals, while I have considered the evidence submitted by both parties, I have also had special regard to the desirability of preserving the building or its setting or any features of special architectural or historic interest which it possesses. Reasons
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. Appeal Decisions APP/Z4718/W/22/3299261 & APP/Z4718/Y/22/3299265 6. Therefore and for the avoidance of doubt, in determining the appeals, while I have considered the evidence submitted by both parties, I have also had special regard to the desirability of preserving the building or its setting or any features of special architectural or historic interest which it possesses. Reasons | In undertaking the site visit and considering the proposal, I have noted a | | --- | | number of omissions, inaccuracies and/or inconsistencies between the | | drawings submitted as part of the applications and appeals and the building on | | site, as well as between the drawings themselves. | site, as well as between the drawings themselves.
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. site, as well as between the drawings themselves. | These include differences in relation to the presence, dimensions, form and/or | | --- | | roof-forms of the painted brick additions at the rear; differences in the location, | | dimensions and/or form of window openings within the rear and side | | elevations; the presence of an existing area enclosed by a timber fence | | abutting what is referenced ‘bin store’ not shown on the drawings; and the | | presence of an existing timber clad dormer at the rear of the building not | | shown on the drawings. These discrepancies also raise doubts as to the | | accuracy of the red line boundary as shown on the submitted site location plan. |
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. | These include differences in relation to the presence, dimensions, form and/or | | --- | | roof-forms of the painted brick additions at the rear; differences in the location, | | dimensions and/or form of window openings within the rear and side | | elevations; the presence of an existing area enclosed by a timber fence | | abutting what is referenced ‘bin store’ not shown on the drawings; and the | | presence of an existing timber clad dormer at the rear of the building not | | shown on the drawings. These discrepancies also raise doubts as to the | | accuracy of the red line boundary as shown on the submitted site location plan. | accuracy of the red line boundary as shown on the submitted site location plan.
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. accuracy of the red line boundary as shown on the submitted site location plan. | The parties were given the opportunity to comment on these matters. The | | --- | | Council responded on 3 January 2023, concurring that there are a number of | | discrepancies between the submitted drawings and the actual buildings and | | yard area on site; and confirming the presence of a dormer at the rear of the | | building. With regard to the red line boundary, the Council invited the Appellant | | to affirm whether the ownership of the land, as stated in the application form, | | is accurate. No comments have been received from the Appellant. |
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. | The parties were given the opportunity to comment on these matters. The | | --- | | Council responded on 3 January 2023, concurring that there are a number of | | discrepancies between the submitted drawings and the actual buildings and | | yard area on site; and confirming the presence of a dormer at the rear of the | | building. With regard to the red line boundary, the Council invited the Appellant | | to affirm whether the ownership of the land, as stated in the application form, | | is accurate. No comments have been received from the Appellant. |
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. is accurate. No comments have been received from the Appellant. 10. It is imperative that drawings are accurate and unambiguous to avoid doubt about what is proposed. Notwithstanding my views on the planning and conservation merits of the proposal, the numerous and substantial discrepancies and uncertainties outlined above give rise to considerable concerns regarding the detail of the proposal. Moreover, they generate serious reservations as to whether it could even be implemented. These matters are highly undesirable in general terms, but even more so given the building’s Grade II listed status, a designated heritage asset of national importance. 11. Taking the above into account, I am unable to properly assess whether the proposal would preserve the Grade II listed building known as the Black Bull Public House, or its setting or any features of special architectural or historic interest which it possesses. Nor can I accurately evaluate its effects on the living conditions of nearby residents, highway safety or biodiversity. 12. Consequently, I cannot reasonably determine whether the proposal would meet the requirements of sections 16(2) and 66(1) of the Act.
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 (the Act) apply. Nor can I draw any conclusions against the relevant policies of the Kirklees Local Plan (2019), or the relevant provisions of the National Planning Policy Framework (2021). 13. Accordingly, for the reasons given above, I conclude that Appeal A should be dismissed and planning permission refused, and that Appeal B should be dismissed and listed building consent refused.
Ye Olde Black Bull, 50 West Street, Lindley, Huddersfield, HD3 3JT — Kirklees Metropolitan Council — F Cullen INSPECTOR https://www.gov.uk/planning-inspectorate 2
Main issues and findings
Heritage impact Against appellant ¶10
The Inspector was unable to assess whether the proposal would preserve the Grade II listed building, its setting, or features of special architectural or historic interest due to discrepancies in the drawings.
Living conditions Against appellant ¶11
The Inspector was unable to evaluate the effects of the proposal on the living conditions of nearby residents due to the inaccuracies in the drawings.
Highway safety Against appellant ¶11
The Inspector was unable to evaluate the effects of the proposal on highway safety due to the inaccuracies in the drawings.
Ecology and biodiversity Against appellant ¶11
The Inspector was unable to evaluate the effects of the proposal on biodiversity due to the inaccuracies in the drawings.
Planning obligations Against appellant ¶12
The Inspector could not reasonably determine whether the proposal met the requirements of sections 16(2) and 66(1) of the Act due to the inaccuracies in the drawings.
Planning obligations Against appellant ¶12
The Inspector could not reasonably determine whether the proposal met the requirements of the Kirklees Local Plan (2019) or the National Planning Policy Framework (2021) due to the inaccuracies in the drawings.
Policies relied on
| Reference | Weight |
|---|---|
| Kirklees Local Plan (2019) |
Limited |
| National Planning Policy Framework (2021) |
Limited |
Site constraints from the Casework Database
Source
Decision letter, 2 pages, issued by the Planning Inspectorate on 11 January 2023 under the Open Government Licence.